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Post by Yankees GM (Ramesh) on Feb 17, 2016 19:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by gepetto69 (Stuart, LAD) on Feb 17, 2016 23:58:11 GMT -5
My question is, has Burnett signed the official papers for his retirement from MLB?
I see the three links all mention his last season but is Burnett "officially" retired?
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Post by Rangers GM (Stephen) on Feb 18, 2016 8:29:16 GMT -5
I didn't realise that there are 'official papers' marking retirement?
It is up to TC to decide whether they are satisfied that Burnett has retired on the strength of the evidence that has been provided.
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Post by Admin on Feb 18, 2016 17:05:07 GMT -5
Approve (1-0)
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Post by Pirates GM (TJ) on Feb 18, 2016 20:40:15 GMT -5
Approve (2-0)
(As the GM of his most recent affiliate, I can tell you he is listed as retired on literally every Pirates site I follow and subscribe to, including both paid Pirates sites)
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Post by Yankees GM (Ramesh) on Feb 19, 2016 19:53:38 GMT -5
Thanks guys! Dumb on my part. I'm assuming i need 3 approvals for this to be confirmed?
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Post by Admin on Feb 19, 2016 20:02:26 GMT -5
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Post by notoriousgman (Gman, NYM) on Feb 21, 2016 13:36:11 GMT -5
I think he should be added into the final round, no reason not too...
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Post by Pirates GM (TJ) on Feb 21, 2016 19:47:31 GMT -5
The reason not to is that we don't add the hundreds of other retired players to the final round... Is Aramis Ramirez in the final round? I think it's better to have someone have to actively nominate retired guys if they want to take a chance on them.
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Post by Admin on Feb 21, 2016 19:58:21 GMT -5
Sorry, I may have misunderstood Mets' comment, and took it as a request. (At times I have also nominated players whether or not I intend to bid on them.)
The question of allowing retired players to receive bids can be discussed in the conversation thread.
If it wasn't a nomination, sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Post by notoriousgman (Gman, NYM) on Feb 21, 2016 20:15:54 GMT -5
Yes, you are correct Adam, thanks.
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Post by Reds GM (Kyler) on Feb 22, 2016 12:51:52 GMT -5
The reason not to is that we don't add the hundreds of other retired players to the final round... Is Aramis Ramirez in the final round? I think it's better to have someone have to actively nominate retired guys if they want to take a chance on them. I would like to nominate Babe Ruth for the final round. I really want that guy on my team |
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Post by notoriousgman (Gman, NYM) on Feb 22, 2016 17:06:12 GMT -5
One difference being Babe Ruth is dead, and AJ Burnett hasn't filed any papers with the league... Not only that, but he's talked the last 2-3 years about staying close to home and joining a team over the summer, before eventually signing to start on time... It's no sure thing, but I'd bet if it gets to be late spring and the Bucs have a few injury's in they're rotation, wouldn't at all be surprised to see pitch this summer...ala Andy Pettite a few years in NY.
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Post by gepetto69 (Stuart, LAD) on Feb 22, 2016 17:20:53 GMT -5
I didn't realise that there are 'official papers' marking retirement? It is up to TC to decide whether they are satisfied that Burnett has retired on the strength of the evidence that has been provided. Just to piggy back on what NYM just mentioned about the itch and AJ Burnett, I "suppose" there are official retirement papers to be filed. You figure players are not allowed to be on the HOF ballot until fice years after they "retire." Now I'm no union rep, I believe PIT would be better at this than me, but I can assume the ballplayers do in fact receive a pension since MLB has a players union once they become "retired." |
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Post by Pirates GM (TJ) on Feb 22, 2016 18:49:57 GMT -5
I think people misunderstood my post.
I don't have an issue with someone nominating a retired player for auction. And I don't have an issue with teams bidding on retired players (though I do think they should be stuck with said players for at least one year). If someone wants to bid on Dan Haren, Tim Hudson, Torii Hunter, Aramis Ramirez, or Barry Zito, as a lottery ticket on the chance they unretire, that's fine. So if NYM was nominating Burnett for additional bidding, sure, no problem.
I just don't think we should automatically add every single retired player to free agent rounds, in part because we have already seen that half the bids they receive are from people who don't even know they are retired. If someone nominates them, sure. But I don't think adding them automatically is prudent.
To Dodgers' question, yes they do get a pension (and lifetime health care). 43 days of MLB service time is enough to get a $34,000 a year pension for life (which is part of why some of those AAAA guys bite and scratch for years trying to get just a little more service time). But when a guy like Burnett has received $150 million in salary, his $100k a year pension isn't terribly relevant to his finances.
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